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Great episode. Very timely for me as I was just last week walking along a beautiful state trail that I had enioyed back in my college days. Turns out, there was a giant logging machine (I don't know what it's called) clear cutting about 10+ acres through a patch where the trail runs through county owned land. The guy operating the machine had to shut it off and waved at me to let me know it was safe for me to pass. Friendly guy, I'm sure. Just doing his job. Anyways, the trail went through the clear cut for only about a quarter mile and then I was thankfully back into the forest. But walking through that and seeing how brutally efficiently that machine was clear cutting the forest was troubling, to say the least.

It felt like that scene in lord of the rings when the ents discover huge swaths of the forest were chopped down. There just are no words for the emptiness you feel when you see that mass death.

Anyway, I admire the Joshua's tenacity and level headedness. I hope he is able to stay balanced in his life while being exposed to this type of stuff. I don't think it's an understatement to say it's traumatic, on some level, to see first hand. But being somewhat traumatized by that is probably the appropriate response. I always think of the Krishnamurti quote, "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." I agree with Josh that we should use that energy to do something rather than let it consume us as we passively observe every last ecosystem being killed.

For anyone in the Midwest, here is a project that could use your help: https://protecttheporkies.com/

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Excellent conversation. Was not sure what to expect. Joshua has done his homework for sure. I like his environmental pragmatic approach. Sounds like a realistic movie based on real world problems. One thing they touched on is our constant need for unnecessary economic growth that has a direct impact on the environment. Right on target. Thank You

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