I want a dyke for president. I want a person with AIDS for president and I want a fag for vice president and I want someone with no health insurance and I want someone who grew up in a place where the earth is so saturated with toxic waste that they didn't have a choice about getting leukemia. I want a president that had an abortion at sixteen and I want a candidate who isn't the lesser of two evils and I want a president who lost their last lover to AIDS, who still sees that in their eyes every time they lay down to rest, who held their lover in their arms and knew they were dying. I want a president with no air-conditioning, a president who has stood on line at the clinic, at the DMV, at the welfare office, and has been unemployed and laid off and sexually harassed and gaybashed and deported. I want someone who has spent the night in the tombs and had a cross burned on their lawn and survived rape. I want someone who has been in love and been hurt, who respects sex, who has made mistakes and learned from them. I want a Black woman for president. I want someone with bad teeth and an attitude, someone who has eaten that nasty hospital food, someone who crossdresses and has done drugs and been in therapy. I want someone who has committed civil disobedience. And I want to know why this isn't possible. I want to know why we started learning somewhere down the line that a president is always a clown. Always a john and never a hooker. Always a boss and never a worker. Always a liar, always a thief, and never caught.
Can we all agree regardless of the outcome of this election, structural changes to system has to happen .
1) abolish the electoral college : this seems like a no brainer one person one vote. Why does someone’s vote in California worth less than other states? Regardless of what u think of Californians they are still Americans 😃
2 ) Rank choice voting : many trump voters would have checked off Bernie as their second choice , we may of had the best candidate winning !
3) make Puerto Rico a state : they are Americans and not garbage
4) Supreme Court needs to be overhauled in some way and to have term limits: why can somebody sit on the Supreme Court making rules like “citizens united” and remain on the bench?
5) abolish citizens united : Billionaires make there billions supported by our tax dollars! Elon made his billions through tax incentives to buy his cars. Why do they give nothing back??? Why do they have more of a voice than the rest of us?
A few swing states decide the presidential election. The whole system needs to be changed. I believe Trump is a big step backwards. He is Stacking the Supreme Court with justices who take away reproductive rights and voting rights. I believe the majority of Americans have views that would be considered progressive, but instead of real policies that would help people we are stuck fighting culture wars of distraction. This culture war distraction is so Trump and others can go on operating with impunity stealing from the tax payers and breaking any law that they want. A president needs to hold themselves to a high standard because they control the strongest military in the world. Trump is a malignant narcissist and should not hold the presidency. I believe we should not have “tolerate” this guy for another four years. I believe we will be fucked if he does but we may already be fucked as you say, so there you have it.
TDS: Is it deranged to be alarmed by January 6 or a level of lying and deceit not seen by a Presidential candidate since our founding? It is clear Trump does not believe in democracy. I do. For me, it's as simple as that.
Chris, I think you were a little hard on the Democrats in your ROMA. It's true that they sidelined Bernie but there is no way Bernie would have beaten Trump. That was their calculation, and I believe it was correct. I do agree with you that electing Harris is not the answer but it is a step in the right direction. That is why Bernie, AOC, etc. support her.
Now a pet peeve. Everyone should stop using the term "mainstream media" to refer to the legacy media outlets. More people listen to Joe Rogan and Fox News than all the network TV new shows combined. They are the new Mainstream Media.
Kamala just said she wants to legalize weed, four years into the term. They get away with this kind of gas lighting because too many people have the mentality that “you were a little too hard on democrats.”
I was working at an HVAC company in New Orleans when Bernie was in the race. I was the token liberal in the whole company. One of my colleagues, a technician buddy was always ragging on me and saying, “Trump is going to beat your girl, Hillary.”
(Calling someone “your boy” or “your girl” was very much a New Orleans thing.) I told him that I didn’t like her. I was backing Bernie. He replied, “Bernie Sanders? I don’t know much about him.” I suggested he do a little research. The next day he told me, “I checked out your boy Bernie last night.” I asked him what he thought, and he said, “I like him. I’d vote for him.”
I understood that this is anecdotal and the smallest possible sample size, but I bet there were plenty of other people like him. At any rate, it always made me wonder what might have happened if Bernie had been the candidate.
There’s no way to know that Trump would’ve beaten Bernie. My point is that the electorate wants change, so a populist is going to appeal. Bernie was a populist from the progressive side, Trump from the bomb-throwing side.
I have trouble understanding this whole two party political system that is run by lobbyist with a ton of money. As a woman, however, I could never vote for such a hateful person. I have been traveling extensively, and while other European countries definitely have their problems, America is failing and not having basic human needs even thought about is wrong.
To be frank, I’m less concerned about Trump himself than I am about the people likely to work in a Trump administration. Deny Project 2025 all he wants, but Trump has proven uninterested in policy details or frankly the actual job of being president and simply enjoys the flattery and fanfare. So Project 2025 (couched in more innocuous-sounding policy proposals) is likely the guiding document for a T47 presidency. Personnel is policy; and the likes of Stephen Miller and similar people turned loose with power is worrisome to say the least. I’m also a tree hugger and the damage to the environment and denial of climate change are issue one with me. Harris isn’t great, but Trump was horrendous last time and would ramp it up even more in round two.
The lack of the environment being a part of most discussions in regards to the election/politics this cycle is insane. So many threats to the environment with this new administration. The possibility of our public lands being sold to the highest bidder is a very real possibility.
This is a bad time to get rid of your government. All your enemies will see it as a capitulation. Putin will get a slice of Europe, and every other nuclear bully will take the hint that NATO means jack shit.
Chemotherapy does not mean launching missisle on cancer children's hospitals backed by the red button, which Putin oversees, and Musk via Trump jives with. Chemotherapy is the compassionate dispersal of radiation so that the cancer dies and the organism lives.
My Father was put through that. It was an act of science, and human compassionate collaboration, which gave him a few more miracle years. Not pretty, just slay the sick like the Romans did, is cleaner. But much more can be learned through the path of compassion.
I want the best for everyone. But musk is rushing it. Another horse in the hospital will destabilize the entire globe, and, frankly, end the human experiment as far as I can see.
I’ve been a longtime fan of Chris’s podcast and really appreciate his insights on so many topics. But I can’t help noticing what some call ‘Trump derangement syndrome’ – it seems so present. It’s given me a whole new appreciation for the saying, ‘Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.’ I still value Chris’s wisdom and perspective, especially on issues beyond today’s politics, and the same goes for Sam Harris. While I may skip some political takes, I’ll keep tuning in for Chris’s broader insights and Sam’s meditation guidance. It’s all about taking the best and leaving the rest.
What exactly is this "derangement" you're referring to? I've seen people post TDS on comments that a rightly criticizing T45, is that all it is, just condemnation of people taking a bad politician to task?
In my experience, most of the people who would claim "TDS" seem the more deranged than his detractors, with their unwavering support of a politician who has been proven to be wantonly untruthful when responding to the most banal of questions.
I’ve come to my position on these topics by considering the perspectives of people I respected long before Trump became a central figure in national conversation. To name a few: Chris Ryan, Matt Taibbi, Michael Schellenberger, Glenn Greenwald, Dave Smith, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, Sam Harris, and Dan Carlin to name a few. I’ve followed these individuals for years, appreciating their insights and diversity of thought.
While these people don’t agree on everything, most of them, after extensive discussion and analysis, lean more towards positions that align with Trump over Harris on certain issues. Listening to their reasoning has shaped my own perspective. Equally important, I’ve also noticed that many of the institutions and voices I distrusted well before this—mainstream media, certain government agencies, and other large organizations—tend to fall on the side of Harris.
For those who lean towards Harris, I’m curious—what information do you think the people I’ve listed might be misinterpreting? If you feel their conclusions are flawed, is it because they’re overlooking something obvious, or perhaps interpreting it through a biased lens? If you follow similar voices but still lean towards Harris, what do you think they’re getting wrong? Is it something that’s glaringly obvious to you, or is it more nuanced? I’d really like to understand if there’s a clear difference in how you interpret the same information, or if it’s more subtle.
Personally, I try to take into account as many viewpoints as possible, and I remain open to revising my stance as I continue to learn and reflect.
From what I can gather the derangement is the acceptance of lies the media has told about Trump that are, relatively, easily proved false. That acceptance and therefore Trump = insert evil figure here.
I’d love to know why you find most of the people calling out so called TDS as more deranged. I see a lot of comments supportive of Kamala, who seems just as unable to answer banal questions. My perspective is, because hers is a more passive word-salad than aggressive bombastic commentary, that is less “scary”.
On the tolerance question, man that’s hard to apply at a societal level. On the individual level I’d say tolerate until behaviour is unsafe… but that can be hard to define. Tricky is maybe a better word.
It was frustrating to see you say he’s “called for the execution”, not because I like Trump, but because that’s example of the media taking Trump’s awkward style of speech and running with it - and it working. Listening to the exchange, it’s pretty clear he’s saying “let’s see how Liz would like to be in a warzone rather than in an air conditioned room in DC”.
I have a hard time viewing him as anymore criminal than anyone else in the cesspool of American politics, just because he’s been convicted it doesn’t seem to mean much, shockingly.
I wasn’t aware of that other instance. I hadn’t read about Milley, and that is quite fucked up for him to have said. His addition of “in times gone by” makes me want to let him off the hook (a bit) which probably sounds equally fucked up. I’m not sure how one would know for certain that he says things like that for both reasons you mention.
Without a doubt though, Trump fumbles really serious responsibilities. What comes to mind are his tweets around prosecuting anyone found guilty of voter fraud. I think that crime should be punished if discovered, regardless of the candidate it impacts. He’s so bombastic about calling out these serious issues, yet it’s also exacerbated by years of hysteria, some warranted and some not (e.g. he never said we should drink bleach but this still gets talked about). With all that said, I still think he has the right to raise the issue.
Re: “9 guns” I took it as it’s oddly specific as a result of how he thinks and speaks. Maybe that’s generous, but I think you or I would say “if decision makers like Liz Chaney ever found themselves in an enemy ambush, I’m sure they’d think twice before sending troops overseas” but he just isn’t that eloquent. He’s spoken to the media for longer than I’ve been alive, going back well before his involvement in politics he has an odd manner of forming thoughts. “9 guns” hits harder and is stickier than “enemy ambush”.
Fair point, if that were the only time he's insinuated that certain people should be put to death for having gone against him. He accused Mark Milley of treason (punishable by death). He says things like this so that people who want to hear him saying Liz should be shot can hear that and people who want to hear him say Liz should experience war can hear that. He's clever that way, as you note. Still, interesting that he specifies nine rifles, no? I don't imagine that happens a lot in war zones, running into nine guns pointed at you.
I loathe him and after thinking about it I’m not sure what exactly he meant (she has one gun and they have nine? Doesn’t really sound like an execution or combat) but when I heard what he said the first thing that popped in my head was this:
What?????!!! “an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH.” Is no where near the same as saying someone “should be put to death.” How can you twist the words like that?! No better than MSM!
Chris -
200 billion of our tax dollars for the last two years of war - Killing 1 million Ukrainians, Russians, and Gazans
Add that to the last 2 1/2 decades of forever wars costing us upwards of 8 trillion and counting now
Dick Cheney, and 250 Bush Cheney staffers endorsed Kamala.
Trump didn’t start any new wars against their wishes and he wants to end the Ukraine war against their wishes.
Tell me again, who is getting conned out of their money and their morality?
Karl Popper explained it in his paradox of Tolerance. When you extend tolerance to the intolerant they end up destroying you from within. It's the same thing that happens when politicians benefit from an open election system to win positions of power, and then use that same power to sabotage the electoral system to ensure no one else will take thrt power away from them (see Mexico for a perfect example of this).
It's a soft form of a coup d'etat. It takes longer and is less flashy than an armed insurrection, but it is more effective.
Hey by the way: where are the intro snippets?! Bring ‘em back please :)
I want a dyke for president. I want a person with AIDS for president and I want a fag for vice president and I want someone with no health insurance and I want someone who grew up in a place where the earth is so saturated with toxic waste that they didn't have a choice about getting leukemia. I want a president that had an abortion at sixteen and I want a candidate who isn't the lesser of two evils and I want a president who lost their last lover to AIDS, who still sees that in their eyes every time they lay down to rest, who held their lover in their arms and knew they were dying. I want a president with no air-conditioning, a president who has stood on line at the clinic, at the DMV, at the welfare office, and has been unemployed and laid off and sexually harassed and gaybashed and deported. I want someone who has spent the night in the tombs and had a cross burned on their lawn and survived rape. I want someone who has been in love and been hurt, who respects sex, who has made mistakes and learned from them. I want a Black woman for president. I want someone with bad teeth and an attitude, someone who has eaten that nasty hospital food, someone who crossdresses and has done drugs and been in therapy. I want someone who has committed civil disobedience. And I want to know why this isn't possible. I want to know why we started learning somewhere down the line that a president is always a clown. Always a john and never a hooker. Always a boss and never a worker. Always a liar, always a thief, and never caught.
“I want a President" (1992) by Zoe Leonard
Can we all agree regardless of the outcome of this election, structural changes to system has to happen .
1) abolish the electoral college : this seems like a no brainer one person one vote. Why does someone’s vote in California worth less than other states? Regardless of what u think of Californians they are still Americans 😃
2 ) Rank choice voting : many trump voters would have checked off Bernie as their second choice , we may of had the best candidate winning !
3) make Puerto Rico a state : they are Americans and not garbage
4) Supreme Court needs to be overhauled in some way and to have term limits: why can somebody sit on the Supreme Court making rules like “citizens united” and remain on the bench?
5) abolish citizens united : Billionaires make there billions supported by our tax dollars! Elon made his billions through tax incentives to buy his cars. Why do they give nothing back??? Why do they have more of a voice than the rest of us?
Good luck everyone , shit needs to change
Yes, and let's add DC statehood to this. Insane that millions of people who pay taxes and get sent to wars have no vote!
Yes , you are right on DC ! It has a larger population than Wyoming and Vermont … why don’t they get a voice ?
Because most of them are Black (Democrats). Can't have those people represented!
The powers that be , ain’t gonna give up there stranglehold easily
Obligatory:
https://x.com/thelouperez/status/1853223962785808742?s=42
A concerned Aussie applauds the 'keep it civil' request and hopes the same for your great and troubled nation. Like they say, 'keep Calm-ala' lol
This is a bit of a long article but well worth your while. It was written by my colleague and explains a lot of why people like Musk and Peter Thiel are backing the Trump campaign so heavily: https://www.dailygrail.com/2024/10/the-technocratic-conspiracy-how-tech-tycoons-plan-to-disrupt-democracy-and-become-the-new-rulers-of-the-world/
These people are from outer space! Thanks for the link. Kind of a scary read to say the least!
A few swing states decide the presidential election. The whole system needs to be changed. I believe Trump is a big step backwards. He is Stacking the Supreme Court with justices who take away reproductive rights and voting rights. I believe the majority of Americans have views that would be considered progressive, but instead of real policies that would help people we are stuck fighting culture wars of distraction. This culture war distraction is so Trump and others can go on operating with impunity stealing from the tax payers and breaking any law that they want. A president needs to hold themselves to a high standard because they control the strongest military in the world. Trump is a malignant narcissist and should not hold the presidency. I believe we should not have “tolerate” this guy for another four years. I believe we will be fucked if he does but we may already be fucked as you say, so there you have it.
TDS: Is it deranged to be alarmed by January 6 or a level of lying and deceit not seen by a Presidential candidate since our founding? It is clear Trump does not believe in democracy. I do. For me, it's as simple as that.
Chris, I think you were a little hard on the Democrats in your ROMA. It's true that they sidelined Bernie but there is no way Bernie would have beaten Trump. That was their calculation, and I believe it was correct. I do agree with you that electing Harris is not the answer but it is a step in the right direction. That is why Bernie, AOC, etc. support her.
Now a pet peeve. Everyone should stop using the term "mainstream media" to refer to the legacy media outlets. More people listen to Joe Rogan and Fox News than all the network TV new shows combined. They are the new Mainstream Media.
Kamala just said she wants to legalize weed, four years into the term. They get away with this kind of gas lighting because too many people have the mentality that “you were a little too hard on democrats.”
I was working at an HVAC company in New Orleans when Bernie was in the race. I was the token liberal in the whole company. One of my colleagues, a technician buddy was always ragging on me and saying, “Trump is going to beat your girl, Hillary.”
(Calling someone “your boy” or “your girl” was very much a New Orleans thing.) I told him that I didn’t like her. I was backing Bernie. He replied, “Bernie Sanders? I don’t know much about him.” I suggested he do a little research. The next day he told me, “I checked out your boy Bernie last night.” I asked him what he thought, and he said, “I like him. I’d vote for him.”
I understood that this is anecdotal and the smallest possible sample size, but I bet there were plenty of other people like him. At any rate, it always made me wonder what might have happened if Bernie had been the candidate.
Bernie probably would have won, imho
There’s no way to know that Trump would’ve beaten Bernie. My point is that the electorate wants change, so a populist is going to appeal. Bernie was a populist from the progressive side, Trump from the bomb-throwing side.
I have trouble understanding this whole two party political system that is run by lobbyist with a ton of money. As a woman, however, I could never vote for such a hateful person. I have been traveling extensively, and while other European countries definitely have their problems, America is failing and not having basic human needs even thought about is wrong.
To be frank, I’m less concerned about Trump himself than I am about the people likely to work in a Trump administration. Deny Project 2025 all he wants, but Trump has proven uninterested in policy details or frankly the actual job of being president and simply enjoys the flattery and fanfare. So Project 2025 (couched in more innocuous-sounding policy proposals) is likely the guiding document for a T47 presidency. Personnel is policy; and the likes of Stephen Miller and similar people turned loose with power is worrisome to say the least. I’m also a tree hugger and the damage to the environment and denial of climate change are issue one with me. Harris isn’t great, but Trump was horrendous last time and would ramp it up even more in round two.
The lack of the environment being a part of most discussions in regards to the election/politics this cycle is insane. So many threats to the environment with this new administration. The possibility of our public lands being sold to the highest bidder is a very real possibility.
This is a bad time to get rid of your government. All your enemies will see it as a capitulation. Putin will get a slice of Europe, and every other nuclear bully will take the hint that NATO means jack shit.
Chemotherapy does not mean launching missisle on cancer children's hospitals backed by the red button, which Putin oversees, and Musk via Trump jives with. Chemotherapy is the compassionate dispersal of radiation so that the cancer dies and the organism lives.
My Father was put through that. It was an act of science, and human compassionate collaboration, which gave him a few more miracle years. Not pretty, just slay the sick like the Romans did, is cleaner. But much more can be learned through the path of compassion.
I want the best for everyone. But musk is rushing it. Another horse in the hospital will destabilize the entire globe, and, frankly, end the human experiment as far as I can see.
I’ve been a longtime fan of Chris’s podcast and really appreciate his insights on so many topics. But I can’t help noticing what some call ‘Trump derangement syndrome’ – it seems so present. It’s given me a whole new appreciation for the saying, ‘Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.’ I still value Chris’s wisdom and perspective, especially on issues beyond today’s politics, and the same goes for Sam Harris. While I may skip some political takes, I’ll keep tuning in for Chris’s broader insights and Sam’s meditation guidance. It’s all about taking the best and leaving the rest.
And I was trolling you Chris by saying it’s Trump derangement syndrome. My second response is the civil one.
What exactly is this "derangement" you're referring to? I've seen people post TDS on comments that a rightly criticizing T45, is that all it is, just condemnation of people taking a bad politician to task?
In my experience, most of the people who would claim "TDS" seem the more deranged than his detractors, with their unwavering support of a politician who has been proven to be wantonly untruthful when responding to the most banal of questions.
I’ve come to my position on these topics by considering the perspectives of people I respected long before Trump became a central figure in national conversation. To name a few: Chris Ryan, Matt Taibbi, Michael Schellenberger, Glenn Greenwald, Dave Smith, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, Sam Harris, and Dan Carlin to name a few. I’ve followed these individuals for years, appreciating their insights and diversity of thought.
While these people don’t agree on everything, most of them, after extensive discussion and analysis, lean more towards positions that align with Trump over Harris on certain issues. Listening to their reasoning has shaped my own perspective. Equally important, I’ve also noticed that many of the institutions and voices I distrusted well before this—mainstream media, certain government agencies, and other large organizations—tend to fall on the side of Harris.
For those who lean towards Harris, I’m curious—what information do you think the people I’ve listed might be misinterpreting? If you feel their conclusions are flawed, is it because they’re overlooking something obvious, or perhaps interpreting it through a biased lens? If you follow similar voices but still lean towards Harris, what do you think they’re getting wrong? Is it something that’s glaringly obvious to you, or is it more nuanced? I’d really like to understand if there’s a clear difference in how you interpret the same information, or if it’s more subtle.
Personally, I try to take into account as many viewpoints as possible, and I remain open to revising my stance as I continue to learn and reflect.
From what I can gather the derangement is the acceptance of lies the media has told about Trump that are, relatively, easily proved false. That acceptance and therefore Trump = insert evil figure here.
I’d love to know why you find most of the people calling out so called TDS as more deranged. I see a lot of comments supportive of Kamala, who seems just as unable to answer banal questions. My perspective is, because hers is a more passive word-salad than aggressive bombastic commentary, that is less “scary”.
On the tolerance question, man that’s hard to apply at a societal level. On the individual level I’d say tolerate until behaviour is unsafe… but that can be hard to define. Tricky is maybe a better word.
It was frustrating to see you say he’s “called for the execution”, not because I like Trump, but because that’s example of the media taking Trump’s awkward style of speech and running with it - and it working. Listening to the exchange, it’s pretty clear he’s saying “let’s see how Liz would like to be in a warzone rather than in an air conditioned room in DC”.
I have a hard time viewing him as anymore criminal than anyone else in the cesspool of American politics, just because he’s been convicted it doesn’t seem to mean much, shockingly.
I wasn’t aware of that other instance. I hadn’t read about Milley, and that is quite fucked up for him to have said. His addition of “in times gone by” makes me want to let him off the hook (a bit) which probably sounds equally fucked up. I’m not sure how one would know for certain that he says things like that for both reasons you mention.
Without a doubt though, Trump fumbles really serious responsibilities. What comes to mind are his tweets around prosecuting anyone found guilty of voter fraud. I think that crime should be punished if discovered, regardless of the candidate it impacts. He’s so bombastic about calling out these serious issues, yet it’s also exacerbated by years of hysteria, some warranted and some not (e.g. he never said we should drink bleach but this still gets talked about). With all that said, I still think he has the right to raise the issue.
Re: “9 guns” I took it as it’s oddly specific as a result of how he thinks and speaks. Maybe that’s generous, but I think you or I would say “if decision makers like Liz Chaney ever found themselves in an enemy ambush, I’m sure they’d think twice before sending troops overseas” but he just isn’t that eloquent. He’s spoken to the media for longer than I’ve been alive, going back well before his involvement in politics he has an odd manner of forming thoughts. “9 guns” hits harder and is stickier than “enemy ambush”.
Fair point, if that were the only time he's insinuated that certain people should be put to death for having gone against him. He accused Mark Milley of treason (punishable by death). He says things like this so that people who want to hear him saying Liz should be shot can hear that and people who want to hear him say Liz should experience war can hear that. He's clever that way, as you note. Still, interesting that he specifies nine rifles, no? I don't imagine that happens a lot in war zones, running into nine guns pointed at you.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/trump-milley-execution-incitement-violence/675435/
I loathe him and after thinking about it I’m not sure what exactly he meant (she has one gun and they have nine? Doesn’t really sound like an execution or combat) but when I heard what he said the first thing that popped in my head was this:
Come you masters of war
You that build the big guns
You that build the death planes
You that build all the bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks
You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly
Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain
You fasten all the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you sit back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
While the young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud
What?????!!! “an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH.” Is no where near the same as saying someone “should be put to death.” How can you twist the words like that?! No better than MSM!
Chris -
200 billion of our tax dollars for the last two years of war - Killing 1 million Ukrainians, Russians, and Gazans
Add that to the last 2 1/2 decades of forever wars costing us upwards of 8 trillion and counting now
Dick Cheney, and 250 Bush Cheney staffers endorsed Kamala.
Trump didn’t start any new wars against their wishes and he wants to end the Ukraine war against their wishes.
Tell me again, who is getting conned out of their money and their morality?
Thank you for saying this! 🙏
Karl Popper explained it in his paradox of Tolerance. When you extend tolerance to the intolerant they end up destroying you from within. It's the same thing that happens when politicians benefit from an open election system to win positions of power, and then use that same power to sabotage the electoral system to ensure no one else will take thrt power away from them (see Mexico for a perfect example of this).
It's a soft form of a coup d'etat. It takes longer and is less flashy than an armed insurrection, but it is more effective.