Sounds like a Traction type rear Differential would keep you out of trouble. Really no need for 4-WD in most situations., they just lead you into trouble.
I traveled the rough back country for years in a 2-WD GMC crewcab with a camper on the back pulling a 10-ft. trailer. It had a Posi rear end and I never once in 35-years got in trouble. Jeep guys would just shake their heads in disbelief whenever I encountered them in places they thought my rig could never go. I even forded rivers and big creeks. I did carry chains,(recommended) but only used them as required on highway mountain passes, but would have also helped should I have needed them in the dirt/mud/sand. I also carried a wheel winch with 150-ft. of 5/16" cable and a hook and pulley, which I never had to use , but others did several times.
So if you adventure likes this often, I would seriously look into a traction type differential or at least carry non- cable chains. in the mean time 'keep the shiny side up' and moving.
Thanks. I carry chains and a pull strap. I've considered a winch, but in this case, it wouldn't have helped, as there were no trees in sight (or any other anchor). We realized later that our rear wheels weren't even holding much weight, as it was mostly on the hitch that was on the rock. So all our digging and messing with the rear tires was for nothing. Still the rear differential may be a good idea...
Chris, Sounds like what you needed was a Hy-Lift-Jack, One of those and some cribbing have got my and friends 4-WD's out of some bad situations.
I was driving my 4-WD Suburban across a field to a building on my dad's new property when it bogged and the rear started sinking. I couldn't pull out despite Posi-traction front & rear diffs. Neighbor came over with a tractor and attempted to pull me out. Nope! So he went back and got another tractor and hooked it to the first and still no budging the Burb out.
I went to my place and got some planks and blocks and a Hy-Lift jack and had myself out in a couple of hours or less. I should note that the rear half of the Suburban was sunk to the tailgate window and I couldn't open the rear doors. Turns out that I drove over and underwater spring in sandy loam ground. Watch out for those wet spots...COQ!
I commented on an earlier thread that I like to try & track roughly where you are on Google Earth / Streetview when reading about your escapades in Scarlett Jovannson, it helps set the scene. Thanks for the co-ordinates, sure makes it a lot earier. P.S. Glad you were able to get help, I hope you weren't inconvenienced for too long. Cheers
I’m glad y’all are safe. The eye roll of your rescue pals companion is unfortunate. We were made for connection which always throughs me off when some people are in a hurry or exhibit unkind behavior.
This gives me strong Dune vibes. The Litany Against Fear:
“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
So much of the division in our society stems from a fear of others, often manufactured by powers that prefer to keep us divided and conquered. We need more compassion and consciousness if we want to survive as a species.
oh man, I've had my little rig up into some places that I _definitely_ should not have, and somehow, luckily, so far, escaped without getting stuck. I still thank my lucky stars about getting into and out of this particular place, for example: https://goo.gl/maps/fTgv2bCiU8ua3VxB8 (look at it in satellite 3D view). Why was I there? well, I thought that maybe I could find a place to camp for the night with a nice view of the sunset to the west looking over the Owens to the Sierras. Instead I got up a dead-end road in the dark, with no turnaround until I reached the old mine shaft, which was of course why there was a road there. Not for the view!
Fuck yeah man. My current [also cycling] view on voting has some differences AND similarities to yours. I really appreciate your passionate yet non-combative approach.
It’s an out-dated system that historically has suppressed/does not represent the marginalized populations (including more privileged tangentialista type non-conformists). And the for-profit media has perpetuated a focus on the presidential election that distracts from the local [or even House & Senate] races that can have a larger impact...albeit still fairly hopeless.
Cheers to “hope [not coming] in the form of politicians, elites, or governments.”
Thank you for some loud outbursts of deep felt laughter ❤️❤️
Humans…. So diverse and entertaining…
Sounds like a Traction type rear Differential would keep you out of trouble. Really no need for 4-WD in most situations., they just lead you into trouble.
I traveled the rough back country for years in a 2-WD GMC crewcab with a camper on the back pulling a 10-ft. trailer. It had a Posi rear end and I never once in 35-years got in trouble. Jeep guys would just shake their heads in disbelief whenever I encountered them in places they thought my rig could never go. I even forded rivers and big creeks. I did carry chains,(recommended) but only used them as required on highway mountain passes, but would have also helped should I have needed them in the dirt/mud/sand. I also carried a wheel winch with 150-ft. of 5/16" cable and a hook and pulley, which I never had to use , but others did several times.
So if you adventure likes this often, I would seriously look into a traction type differential or at least carry non- cable chains. in the mean time 'keep the shiny side up' and moving.
Thanks. I carry chains and a pull strap. I've considered a winch, but in this case, it wouldn't have helped, as there were no trees in sight (or any other anchor). We realized later that our rear wheels weren't even holding much weight, as it was mostly on the hitch that was on the rock. So all our digging and messing with the rear tires was for nothing. Still the rear differential may be a good idea...
Chris, Sounds like what you needed was a Hy-Lift-Jack, One of those and some cribbing have got my and friends 4-WD's out of some bad situations.
I was driving my 4-WD Suburban across a field to a building on my dad's new property when it bogged and the rear started sinking. I couldn't pull out despite Posi-traction front & rear diffs. Neighbor came over with a tractor and attempted to pull me out. Nope! So he went back and got another tractor and hooked it to the first and still no budging the Burb out.
I went to my place and got some planks and blocks and a Hy-Lift jack and had myself out in a couple of hours or less. I should note that the rear half of the Suburban was sunk to the tailgate window and I couldn't open the rear doors. Turns out that I drove over and underwater spring in sandy loam ground. Watch out for those wet spots...COQ!
I commented on an earlier thread that I like to try & track roughly where you are on Google Earth / Streetview when reading about your escapades in Scarlett Jovannson, it helps set the scene. Thanks for the co-ordinates, sure makes it a lot earier. P.S. Glad you were able to get help, I hope you weren't inconvenienced for too long. Cheers
This makes me want to get that winch for the front of my Jeep that I've been putting off for years, just in case I need to help someone (or myself).
I’m glad y’all are safe. The eye roll of your rescue pals companion is unfortunate. We were made for connection which always throughs me off when some people are in a hurry or exhibit unkind behavior.
A smile from rainy old Portland.
I wouldn't have predicted that rescue video would be so dang charming!
I would have left you there. But, I would have waved on the way by, so I’m not all bad.
This gives me strong Dune vibes. The Litany Against Fear:
“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
So much of the division in our society stems from a fear of others, often manufactured by powers that prefer to keep us divided and conquered. We need more compassion and consciousness if we want to survive as a species.
So true.
oh man, I've had my little rig up into some places that I _definitely_ should not have, and somehow, luckily, so far, escaped without getting stuck. I still thank my lucky stars about getting into and out of this particular place, for example: https://goo.gl/maps/fTgv2bCiU8ua3VxB8 (look at it in satellite 3D view). Why was I there? well, I thought that maybe I could find a place to camp for the night with a nice view of the sunset to the west looking over the Owens to the Sierras. Instead I got up a dead-end road in the dark, with no turnaround until I reached the old mine shaft, which was of course why there was a road there. Not for the view!
I'm glad help arrived when you and Scarlett Jovannson needed it, Chris!
Fuck yeah man. My current [also cycling] view on voting has some differences AND similarities to yours. I really appreciate your passionate yet non-combative approach.
It’s an out-dated system that historically has suppressed/does not represent the marginalized populations (including more privileged tangentialista type non-conformists). And the for-profit media has perpetuated a focus on the presidential election that distracts from the local [or even House & Senate] races that can have a larger impact...albeit still fairly hopeless.
Cheers to “hope [not coming] in the form of politicians, elites, or governments.”