I’ve known Stanley Krippner since the mid-1990s, when he invited me to join him on a three week trip to Brazil. He’s a world-famous researcher and author who has has hung out with everyone from Timothy Leary to Alan Watts to the Grateful Dead. He and I have traveled together to all over the planet, from a shamanism conference in Bavaria to a Psychoneuroimmunology conference in Buenos Aires to an adventure in search of the desert spirits in Morocco. We entered the “Sistine Chapel of Prehistoric Art” together at Lascaux, France and visited religious scholars in Kerala, India. I’m leaving out A LOT. He’s been a close friend for 25 years, and was one of the first (and most frequent) guests on the podcast. Here are links to previous episodes:
The part in the beginning where you explain what women find attractive was pretty cringe. I like you but sometimes you act like you are the arbiter of all female desire. Having a dope body cannot hurt you or your dating outlooks.
Thank you so much for this, Chris. I love Stanley's scientific yet completely open minded approach to reality and your conversations with him are some of my favourite episodes of the podcast. I am thoroughly enjoying listening to this one.
Your podcast has kept me company over the years, and especially recently it makes me feel less alone. I find it hard to find like-minded people and have the kind of conversations you have with your guests, so Tangentially Speaking definitely fills that void in my life right now. Hopefully that'll change one day as I find more people on my wavelength, but even when I do, I'll still be tuning in to the podcast.
Thanks for everything and keep up the good work, Chris.
The recording contained a sampling of this terrific instrumental hit from 1962.
I was 10 then so I remember when it was on the radio.
It popped up again this years but I forgot why.
I like clarinet playing, like, Benny Goodman, and Artie Shaw.
(Artie Shaw is important to me because he mention Dreiser's The Genius in a book be wrote and from that I went on to read all of Dreiser's fiction. He became a favorite.)
anyway its a nice recording as it is but the sampled thing is fine too. It all goes back in the mix doesn't it?
What wonderful wisdom from Stanley. Ended with some profound messages that I really needed to hear. Thank you for sharing this, Chris. And happy birthday to Stanley! 💛
Great and wide ranging episode Chris and Stanley! I thought it was interesting that Stanley brought up fight or flight as natural, or instinctual, and freezing as an unnatural behavior. I have been wondering about this recently. Mostly in the context of recent-ish events.
You see it in a lot of descriptions of sexual harassment and assault that the victim freezes. It started making me wonder if this is a "glitch" of cognition. But, it seems to be a common element of sexual assault that means surely this response isn't coincidental. And before anyone applies this as an element of female cognition, the very macho Terry Crews caught a lot of flack when he described a situation where a powerful producer grabbed his dick at a party and his response was to freeze.
And recently when the video was released of the woman jogging and being ran down by her kidnapper who managed to walk her to the car I wondered if this same "freezing" behavior was present. And Just this week a California family was held at gun point and kidnapped and tragically murdered. Is this in the same vein?
The thing that I keep coming back to is the fact that this behavior is all in response to other human beings. Is our social nature backfiring here and giving us the false impression that everything can be solved in the social realm?
I don't have a daughter or kids. But after seeing the video of the woman jogger being led back into the kidnappers vehicle and later seeing that she was killed I came to the conclusion that if I ever do have kids I would teach them not to let themselves develop a false sense of security and freeze if someone is forcing them into a situation they have no control over, fight like hell.
I once was jogging and the neighbors formerly fenced 60+ lb. Stafford Terrier got loose and came barreling down on me. I stopped running and froze (running would have ensured his prey drive stayed in high gear). He grabbed my arm put a little biting pressure on it and was waiting for me to react so he could start shaking. I didn't. He got confused and let go. He didn't even break skin. Freezing worked in that situation.
There are many descriptions in the ethnographic literature of African hunter-gatherers freezing in front of a lion until it goes away.
I'm curious if anyone has an opinion or experience on "freezing". Does anyone else think it might be a common third behavior along with fight or flight?
I rather enjoyed this podcast. I have only listened to it once but i plan on at least another round. One thing that caught me was the part about life after death. Stanely spoke earlier in the podcast of this connection some ppl have with others. I believe it was in regards to past lives. I guess i found that these 2 things were quite similar. Why could this woman simply not have some connection to this preacher who seemed to know all of the fallen soldiers she spoke of. Maybe she simply had dreams of what this man hoped the fallen had; Life after death. idk but i have really enjoyed ur content so far Chris so ty for making it !
Happy 90th, Stanley 🌟 He’s a sharp and wise gentleman and such a gift to the world. This interview, in particular, is a gem filled with deep inquisition, complexity, and wisdom. I adore how he expresses his happiness and gratitude first for his lifelong friendships when asked, “Which work of his is he most happiest with.” Chris, you have inspired so many people. Kudos for paying it forward. Rock on 🤘
The part in the beginning where you explain what women find attractive was pretty cringe. I like you but sometimes you act like you are the arbiter of all female desire. Having a dope body cannot hurt you or your dating outlooks.
Thank you so much for this, Chris. I love Stanley's scientific yet completely open minded approach to reality and your conversations with him are some of my favourite episodes of the podcast. I am thoroughly enjoying listening to this one.
Your podcast has kept me company over the years, and especially recently it makes me feel less alone. I find it hard to find like-minded people and have the kind of conversations you have with your guests, so Tangentially Speaking definitely fills that void in my life right now. Hopefully that'll change one day as I find more people on my wavelength, but even when I do, I'll still be tuning in to the podcast.
Thanks for everything and keep up the good work, Chris.
Jon
The recording contained a sampling of this terrific instrumental hit from 1962.
I was 10 then so I remember when it was on the radio.
It popped up again this years but I forgot why.
I like clarinet playing, like, Benny Goodman, and Artie Shaw.
(Artie Shaw is important to me because he mention Dreiser's The Genius in a book be wrote and from that I went on to read all of Dreiser's fiction. He became a favorite.)
anyway its a nice recording as it is but the sampled thing is fine too. It all goes back in the mix doesn't it?
https://youtu.be/_cEr4CCtllA
What wonderful wisdom from Stanley. Ended with some profound messages that I really needed to hear. Thank you for sharing this, Chris. And happy birthday to Stanley! 💛
Wot, no questions about UFOs?? 😭
Happy 90, Stanley! Truly grateful we can still benefit from your vast knowledge and kindness.
Great and wide ranging episode Chris and Stanley! I thought it was interesting that Stanley brought up fight or flight as natural, or instinctual, and freezing as an unnatural behavior. I have been wondering about this recently. Mostly in the context of recent-ish events.
You see it in a lot of descriptions of sexual harassment and assault that the victim freezes. It started making me wonder if this is a "glitch" of cognition. But, it seems to be a common element of sexual assault that means surely this response isn't coincidental. And before anyone applies this as an element of female cognition, the very macho Terry Crews caught a lot of flack when he described a situation where a powerful producer grabbed his dick at a party and his response was to freeze.
And recently when the video was released of the woman jogging and being ran down by her kidnapper who managed to walk her to the car I wondered if this same "freezing" behavior was present. And Just this week a California family was held at gun point and kidnapped and tragically murdered. Is this in the same vein?
The thing that I keep coming back to is the fact that this behavior is all in response to other human beings. Is our social nature backfiring here and giving us the false impression that everything can be solved in the social realm?
I don't have a daughter or kids. But after seeing the video of the woman jogger being led back into the kidnappers vehicle and later seeing that she was killed I came to the conclusion that if I ever do have kids I would teach them not to let themselves develop a false sense of security and freeze if someone is forcing them into a situation they have no control over, fight like hell.
I once was jogging and the neighbors formerly fenced 60+ lb. Stafford Terrier got loose and came barreling down on me. I stopped running and froze (running would have ensured his prey drive stayed in high gear). He grabbed my arm put a little biting pressure on it and was waiting for me to react so he could start shaking. I didn't. He got confused and let go. He didn't even break skin. Freezing worked in that situation.
There are many descriptions in the ethnographic literature of African hunter-gatherers freezing in front of a lion until it goes away.
I'm curious if anyone has an opinion or experience on "freezing". Does anyone else think it might be a common third behavior along with fight or flight?
I rather enjoyed this podcast. I have only listened to it once but i plan on at least another round. One thing that caught me was the part about life after death. Stanely spoke earlier in the podcast of this connection some ppl have with others. I believe it was in regards to past lives. I guess i found that these 2 things were quite similar. Why could this woman simply not have some connection to this preacher who seemed to know all of the fallen soldiers she spoke of. Maybe she simply had dreams of what this man hoped the fallen had; Life after death. idk but i have really enjoyed ur content so far Chris so ty for making it !
Happy 90th, Stanley 🌟 He’s a sharp and wise gentleman and such a gift to the world. This interview, in particular, is a gem filled with deep inquisition, complexity, and wisdom. I adore how he expresses his happiness and gratitude first for his lifelong friendships when asked, “Which work of his is he most happiest with.” Chris, you have inspired so many people. Kudos for paying it forward. Rock on 🤘